Question: I'll wait.

Yeah, I am ready.

Question: Do I have contact with Olly?

Yes, you do.

Question: Olly, I'm going to try to talk English to you. You may always talk English, even if I sometimes use Dutch.

Okay. He says in Dutch that it is weird. So we'll see how we go. Maybe I'll switch back halfway through.

Question: Yeah. Olly, Gemma has had quite a long holiday. What did you notice about her when she came back?

It was good for her. She needed to do that to find herself and to come back to herself. To talk with other people and go out, out of her shell and back to herself. She needed that connection and she needed the time for that. She needed a long time away, away from life, away from the stress.

Question: If you say this, I have the feeling that you perceive then Gemma from a higher perspective?

Yeah. 

Question: But I also wonder how the cat Olly, if he feels difference?

She's much calmer. She's less stressed. Less stressed at work.

Question: Yeah. Olly the cat can feel that too?

Yes.

Question: How was for the cat the period with Peter?

Oh, I liked it. He was nice. He was calm and his dog. He was nice. I liked him. I had a good time.

Question: I wonder whether for you such a period, whether as a cat or as the soul Olly, is also a learning process or doesn't it work like that at your level?

I don't need to learn it. This was not for me. This was purely for Gemma. I'm on another level.

Question: You have a lot of cats that you influence, that are under your influence. Is it all right that you as a higher consciousness, that I call you a soul? Or how shall I call that level, just higher consciousness? Soul? What word shall I use?

The higher Olly, not a soul. I'm the higher Olly.

Question: Higher Olly, is a soul different?

Yeah, a soul is different. I'm not a soul. I'm higher than a soul. I'm bigger. That's a lot for you to understand. So we'll stay with higher Olly. That shows how high I am. Gemma has met other me's, other Olly's on her travels. She's met other cats and they were also me.There is a lot of us.

Question: Oh, that's very nice to hear. Did these cats or Gemma sense that in a way?

Yes, some of them, not all of them. But with a lot of them she did. She knew they wanted the connection. She didn't put it to me, but she knew they were for the connection. But that's always me.

Question: And that is always you... In her own environment, are there also more Olly cats?

There's a lot of Olly cats. She meets them at work as well. There's a lot of Olly cats.

Question: So she meets you quite some time during her life in all kind of cat forms?

Ah, yes. I'm always there for everyone. Everyone meets me all the time. They just don't know it.

Question: Sometimes people have a spirit animal. We've talked about spirit animals the last time. You told us that there are animals for the Earth and there are animals for humans. And when an animal is an spirit animal, then it has to be an animal for humans. Cats are for humans, but I’ve never seen them being used in the West as a spirit animal.

They're too close to the humans. People will humanize them as spirit animals. The spirit animal needs to be a little mysterious. Cats and dogs, we're no longer mysterious to people. So we can't be spirit animals. Too close to them. So that's a different function. We're not a group there. We're different. We're part of the humans. We help them, but in a different way than spirit animals do.

Question: I understand. Spirit animals are just a bit further away from the humans in their role as spirit animal. You said that fish are for the Earth and sharks are for humans. Can you tell me about the function sharks have for humans?

Sharks are there to eat. They eat a lot and humans need that, that they clean. When they eat, they clean things up. They eat a lot of the rubbish in the ocean. Humans make a lot of rubbish and the sharks, they eat that up. They also eat fish and all that, but that's not important. They tidy the rubbish, they eat the rubbish. And they pray. They find it. They're good at finding things. They're like your sniffer dogs off the sea. They'll find things that need to be found and need to be dealt with. They're really good with that. They've got good noses, sharks, good raiders. I shouldn't call it ‘noses’, they're raiders. But they can find things.

Question: Yeah, but a shark is not a spirit animal?

No.

Question: And an orca?

Orcas are spirit animals. Orcas are brave, mighty and brave. That's what you can call them for.

Question: Okay. Last time I asked about flies and mosquitoes and you said we'll do that another time. That makes me curious.

Not today.

Question: OK, thank you. Gemma is a vetenarian. She works with animals at her job. Has she a special role in this as a vet?

Oh yes, she can communicate with us. A lot of vets can't. They just treat what they see, but she can communicate. She can actually listen to what we need. That's a big help to us. She can't always do something about that. She needs to learn that because a lot of the time we need something that she can't help us with but the owner can. But she needs to tell them that, but that's scary because then you're showing yourself and you're very vulnerable. So that will take time. She doesn't need to do that yet, but she'll get there. One day she'll be our voice, our voice on Earth. But now she's too scared to have her voice heard. So we'll work on that first. First her own voice, then our voice.

Question: Yeah. So what you tell me is that she also already knows sometimes that the way an animal is treated makes it sick?

Not that so much. We need different things than what she can provide. So sometimes it's attention or our environment. But a lot of the time it's the human interaction that needs dealing with. And the human needs to listen to us and she can help us with that. So we're not talking physical here. That doesn't matter.

Question: Yeah. That is quite a lot, that would be a great change in comparison with her present job, which is just on the physical level.

Yeah, very different.

Question: You told us that you have a message for humans. I cannot imagine the process of how humans can start to be open for this kind of information because they are so busy with other things and are thinking on such a different level. I can't imagine how they can be opened for new information.

They can't. It needs to come from within. They need to be willing to see. But first they need to work on themselves before they can open up to us. It's a lot. This is a long term thing. It's not going to get fixed quickly. We're here. We've been here for a long time. We're here for a long time to come. People need to slow down. They need to come to themselves. They need to listen. They need to open their hearts, and then we can get them. But that takes time and courage.

Question: Information now is coming to this world that the energies around this planet are rapidly changing in a positive way. Do you know about this?

I can see it. There's a lot of pink colors around the Earth right now. I see a lot of pink, a little bit of purple. I'm not part of this, but I can see the changes a little bit. I can see it from a distance. I don't know what they're doing, but I can see it's different and it's good. It's beautiful, beautiful colors. And there's a lot happening. There's a lot of energy surrounding the Earth.

Question: Are they relatively new energies? Because you live about 500 years, can you see that this is new?

The passed 200 years, it's got a lot more. We've had a lot more help the last 200 years. And it's getting more and more now. But that's when it's got started, or started to ramp up. It's always been there, but that's when it got more.

Question: You say the change has to come from within, with people, from within. Are these energies that now are available on the planet, will they trigger this happening within, or is that of a different level?

Yeah, that's what we designed them to do. We can help. We put little helping bits out everywhere. And people can choose to pick up on that, to pick up on a sign or a feeling or a thought. We put them there all the time, but people need to choose to pick up on them. That part is on them. So yes, there's a lot of things we are putting onto the Earth, but we can't put them directly onto people. We can put them in front of people, but they need to choose to look at it and take it.

Question: So the change from within is a change that a person, him or herself, will have to open up to?

Yes.

Question: As an active willing, it will not just happen from within?

For a lot of people, it will happen subconsciously. It still takes effort and they have to change things, but they're not always going to be aware that they are changing. They'll look back and say: “Ten years ago, this was different” or “I was different.” But it's not always a conscious choice they take: “today, I'm going to do this different.” That's not how it works. They just live their life and little bit by little bit they pick up on things and they very slowly and very gradually change it. They may not notice it, but they do.

Question: I understand. If I say that is also more on an astral level, is that a correct saying or is that something different?

No, that's the same, yes.

Question: Is it true that people communicate constantly with each other on this astral level, separate from the physical level?

Yes, we do. We just don't know it. People are not aware of this, but yes, it happens all the time.

Question: So for example, if I use myself on my work, is it true that I communicate with the people on my work on different levels, also on astral levels, about my work, about the work we’re doing?

No. You communicate on the level where you are. So your physical body communicates out about your physical environment. The emotional body communicates about emotion. And your astral body communicates about the universe and big changes and the spirit changes and feelings. But not about physical work. That's not important to them. You can choose if you tap into it with your telepathy. You can choose to communicate those things. But it's coming from your physical thought put into the astral body or into the astral world. That's not happening without your awareness. If it's without your awareness, it's not a physical problem that gets fixed.

Question: So the astral body is always or almost always acting on a much bigger scale than the Earth.

Yes. It's your higher self, you know. It's still you, but it's bigger than you. It's bigger than your physical you. It's the same with the Earth. You've got your physical Earth and you've got your astral Earth. It's all different, different layers of the same.

Question: The astral bodies of people, are they much more connected already or always have been?

They have to be. They have to be very connected. A lot of us are the same. Like me, there's a lot of me around on Earth. The same goes for people. So we are all very connected if we don't know about it. But yes, we are very, very, very, very interconnected.

Question: People experience in their human lives quite often a lot of stress. It's very difficult for them to relax, as you know. Except for trying to do less, is there a kind of perception or the way we perceive things or the way we think about things, that we can also change and that would help us to get more relaxed?

People think they're too important. They need to let go of that. Humans are not as important as they think they are. Their work is not as important as they think it is. They put a lot of pressure on themselves for no reason, because they think they're important. And it's not. If they let go of that, they won't be stressed anymore. They can just go through their day and they're fine. But they think that they need to do this, they have to do that... But that doesn't matter. It's not important. So they need to realize that. There's nothing you can do to help with it. If you stop working, you'll still feel important. And as long as you do that, it doesn't matter whether you work or not. Nothing will change.

Question: We think we have to do a lot indeed. We think we have to. And all this information which is coming to us from the digital technique, it seems it is worsening that situation of stress. It is bringing more stress.

Yes, people are now comparing to other people and that's dangerous. When you see someone else, you think they do better. And you feel you have to do better, so you put more pressure on yourself. That's not good.

Question: The technique that we have, is it also possible that it can help us eventually to live a life which is much quieter? Or do we really need to get more in touch with nature for that?

Nature helps. Nature helps a lot of people to calm down and to come to themselves. It's not a must. They don't have to, but it can help. It's a tool, just like other things we put in front of them. They're all tools that you can use to help.

Question: Is the planet, as it is now on a physical level, capable of bearing all the chemical dirt and disruption of nature? Is it capable of bearing that and keep so much nature alive? How bad is the situation?

Yes. If she couldn't do it, she wouldn't be here. She is capable. She's very capable. People don't know that of her, but she is very strong. And she's got the layer of protection. So only the very outer layer gets damaged. And she can cope with that because at her core, she is really strong. So all the physical damage that people do with chemicals and cutting trees and tractors, it's insignificant to her. She doesn't worry about that. She's got enough good. She's okay. We don't need to worry so much. We worry too much about Earth. She can cope with it. She's okay. We need to worry more about ourselves.

Question: I have heard the information that children that are now born into this world have a much stronger connection with their inner and higher self than before. Do you know about that? Can you tell something about this?

Oh, yes, it's wonderful. This is what we wanted. We want people to be connected, and now at a younger age, they are. Look at you, you guys are working on it. But these children don't have to, they just - they are. They don't have to worry about these things. They know how to live their life the way they need to live their life. And that's enough. They know not to worry about things that are insignificant. They prioritize things that are important and ignore things that are not. Some people struggle with that. They see these children and they say they're lazy because they make different choices. These different choices are good. They're the right choices for them, just like the choices of other generations were for them. They all made the choices that were right for them at the time and that changes. So it's good to see these children stepping up into the light. They are who they are meant to be. They're good.

Question: That's very interesting because I hear about these younger people and I see them work on a different level. I see that they are quieter. They are not so stressed about all the things: “This has to be done, that …” No, they just don't do it. They keep much more to themselves.

Yeah, they're in connection with themselves. Not as much as other people - that will come. But they are more connected to themselves than previous generations have been.

Question: But if this is the case, then a change in the way of life could happen quite quickly if children are capable of keeping this connection and bringing this new energy in?

Yeah. In the next ten years, I think the Earth will look very different, with how people behave, I mean.

Question: Can the website Gemma is making for animal interview, can that help her too to be more open?

No, she doesn't need that. She needs to be open in her life with the people around her. The website won't change that because it's not her website. It's our website. It's Olly's website. That's what's important. There doesn't need to be a person attached to that. It's mine. It's all ours.

Question: At this moment, I would like your advice, if you can give me that, if you want to, because we had three other interviews. And I was a bit worried that they were not coming out on the internet. I have published them on my own website. But the intention is that they come on the website Animal Interview. What do you have to say about that? Is it a good idea that I do this on my own website as long as they are not on the other website? Or can you tell me I don't have to do that because it will just slowly come on the Animal Interview website?

It will slowly come, but it's great that it's out in the world already.

Question: Okay.

I am happy to hear that, but it will come. I have faith in it. You're working on it. That's okay. That's enough.

Question: Thank you. So I can go on doing this?

Yes, please.

Question:  Thank you. I have heard, Olly, that in the future the planet humans live on and the planet most animals live on will not be the same planet anymore. Do you know about this?

I don't know about that. I live in the now. I don't know about the future. That's too far away from me. I've lived my life. My spirit has lived. So I know about the past and I know about the now. But I'm not high enough to know about the future and the plans. Yes, there will be plans. There are spirits, for lack of a better word, that are planning. But I'm not part of that. That's higher up.

Question: Olly, we have had a few wars, quite a few wars, and also cats were eaten en masse. How has this been for the cat world, if I may ask?

It's not important. The wars are not important to us. We are here to do our job as a whole. And we are here to help the people. And if that's how we need to help the people, then that's how we help the people. 

Question: Okay, thank you.

We don't have the same emotional attachment there that you do. People are emotional about this, we're not. It's a matter of fact for us.

Question: Olly, thank you very much for this interview. I will, with Gemma, we will try to interview you or another animal once each three weeks or about that. I thank you very much for this conversation. Is there anything else you would like to add at this moment?

No, this is good. Thank you for your work.

Question: Thank you very much.